Cultivating Integrity with Bryan Stupar
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Cultivating Integrity with Bryan Stupar

Recorded live at our August 2023 training event in Temecula, California, this episode of the Expositors Collective podcast features Bryan Stupar, who explores the crucial role of a preacher's character. Drawing from his personal experiences and deep scriptural insights, Bryan highlights that while preaching skills are essential, the character of the preacher is even more crucial. Join us as Bryan shares heartfelt lessons and practical wisdom on cultivating integrity and authenticity in ministry. This episode is a must-listen for anyone committed to preaching with both skill and sincerity.

 Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.- 1 Timothy 4:12 


Recommended episodes: 

Here's an interview with Bryan about this topic from 2021: https://cgnmedia.org/podcast/expositors-collective/episode/why-character-matters-bryan-stupar 

David Guzik on 8 Character Essentials for Bible Teachers: https://cgnmedia.org/podcast/expositors-collective/episode/eight-character-essentials-for-bible-teachers-david-guzik

The Shocking Life of Jesus ~ Peter Kreeft, PhD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWZhFWBSsCg


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[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Right teaching with right living will rightly reflect the grace and beauty of Jesus.

[00:00:06] [SPEAKER_00]: But conversely, the same is true as well. Wrong teaching with any form of combination of wrong living.

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_00]: So in other words you can be have very solid Bible teaching down and hermeneutics down

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_00]: and good expositional teaching down and be a very gifted charismatic preacher

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_00]: but not be living the gospel rightly or well.

[00:00:26] [SPEAKER_00]: And therefore that brings about a distortion of Jesus.

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, welcome to the Expositors Collective Podcast, episode 342.

[00:00:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host Mike Neglia.

[00:00:37] [SPEAKER_01]: The voice you heard is our guest for this week, Bryan Stupar is the pastor of Calvary San Luis Obispo in the Central Coast of California.

[00:00:49] [SPEAKER_01]: And this is a great stirring message that he gave in August of 2023 at one of our in-person preaching training events.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_01]: And we put a lot of effort and a lot of work into biblical study, inductive Bible study, organizing thoughts, presenting it well.

[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But it's important to us at Expositors Collective that we don't just give tips and tricks or secrets to communicate well

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: without also addressing the heart and the character of the person doing the teaching and preaching.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's possible to say all the right things up front but then have a life that's in disarray

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: or that is actually dishonoring to Jesus himself.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_01]: With our words, we say the right things but our hearts can be far from him.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_01]: This is Bryan Stupar encouraging us, challenging us and inviting us into a life of integrity.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I was in the room when this happened and there was kind of just a special moment

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_01]: that took place when Bryan spoke these words to us.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I know that most of you listen to this on your headphones through a podcast app.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: Do you know? We also have a YouTube channel as well.

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And over there, there are sometimes there's short clips, short shareable clips from podcast episodes.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes we put the whole episode out on YouTube.

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And there's a high quality, high definition video of this session.

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can find that over there on the YouTube channel as well.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And guys, Bryan Stupar is a high quality, high definition man.

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to go check it out on YouTube over there.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're coming up on the Uganda trip and there certainly is still time for you to sponsor an exposer.

[00:03:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let you hear from Pastor Zeddy Muzungu as well as Bryan Kelly.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to explain how you can sponsor an exposer

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_01]: and you can help a church leader in the rural regions of Uganda to come into the capital city

[00:03:24] [SPEAKER_01]: and be encouraged in their personal study and public proclamation of God's word.

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_01]: All right, here's Pastor Zeddy and then you'll hear Bryan afterwards.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_03]: Pastor Zeddy is my name. I do pastor Kavitha for Kampala.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_03]: And we're trying to get over 200 pastors to come to Kampala.

[00:03:41] [SPEAKER_03]: It's in the middle of the city. So some are going to be traveling from way out of the country.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_03]: So we're asking you guys to get involved in some way.

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: We need your help to help these pastors get into the conference.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_04]: The conference is free of charge.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_04]: We want to provide it free of charge for those who can't attend.

[00:03:57] [SPEAKER_04]: However, some of these pastors are coming from remote areas.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_04]: They need to cover the cost of transportation, food and lodging while they're there.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_04]: That's going to cost about $100 per pastor.

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_04]: So if you can help us sponsor a pastor to get to the conference, we'd really appreciate it.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_04]: You can do so at the expositor's collective website.

[00:04:19] [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, I want to begin this morning just by talking a little bit about when I was a young pastor.

[00:04:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I remember having this moment.

[00:04:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I was wrestling through my insecurities, my inexperience, really trying to find my voice

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_00]: while at the same time trying to hold on to deeply honoring Jesus

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and living a lifestyle that would portray his goodness no matter what.

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I was going through a series of actually, ironically, expositional teaching series

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that was super in-depth.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_00]: It was back then they were on cassette.

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So some of you might remember those little things, cassettes.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_00]: And I remember actually rather than having this moment of feeling encouraged

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and like lifted up and edified though there were moments of that

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_00]: for the most part I felt just extremely discouraged

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_00]: because I felt like the guy that was teaching it was so far advanced,

[00:05:12] [SPEAKER_00]: so far beyond me, so more capable.

[00:05:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And obviously I was working through the reality that that guy had two decades,

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_00]: if not three decades more on me.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_00]: I was 23 years old when I first planted our church up in San Luis Obispo.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody know where San Luis Obispo is at?

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, good job.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I remember just feeling a sense of like, man, I'm never going to arrive.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm never going to find my voice.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm never going to be able to get this down right and well

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and living with that reality of my inexperience and all that.

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_00]: It was in that moment I really sense that the Holy Spirit just kind of like prompted

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_00]: that passage in my heart in 1 Timothy chapter four.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you guys want, you can turn there as well.

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_00]: 1 Timothy chapter four, I'm going to kind of look at various parts of chapter four.

[00:05:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of all important for what we're going to be talking about here this morning.

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_00]: But specifically chapter four verse 12 where Paul actually exhorts.

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's 12 maybe four somewhere around there.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_00]: My notes are probably a little bit discombobulated, but he specifically says this.

[00:06:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Let no one despise your youth, but set an example in speech and conduct and love and faith and impurity.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to read that again.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Let no one despise your youth, but set an example in speech and love and conduct and faith and impurity.

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And what really spoke to my heart in that moment was the reality that even though I might not be advanced

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_00]: in terms of my technique of studying scripture, being able to apply it, being able to teach it

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_00]: even though I might be kind of within this process of learning to discover my voice

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_00]: and learning to hone this craft and learning to be able to develop this muscle of teaching

[00:06:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and analyzing and thinking and carefully praying through passages of scripture

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_00]: and learning how to apply that and then craft the sermon and all this other type of stuff

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_00]: that we're learning, which is all really good and important for our development and our growth.

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: What this passage really spoke to my heart on is that what I can do is I can set an example

[00:07:17] [SPEAKER_00]: in my speech, in my conduct, in my love and faith and impurity.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_00]: Now I think it's important to kind of pause real quick and take a look at a little bit of the back story

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_00]: of what Paul, and who Paul is writing to.

[00:07:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Paul's writing to you guys I'm sure are familiar.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_00]: Timothy was kind of like his padwan and his little disciple Lee, the one that he was training up

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_00]: and raising up to essentially pastor churches and take over a lot of the ministry that Paul himself was part of.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_00]: I like to think of this way. I kind of have some bullet points on the slide.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_00]: So number one is 1 Timothy chapter 2, 2 through 3 kind of describes that he was going around

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_00]: forming these faithful communities that were devoted to Jesus.

[00:07:58] [SPEAKER_00]: That was Paul's heartbeat. He went around planting churches.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_00]: But what Paul also recognized that if he was going to put Timothy in charge of pastoring these

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_00]: required sometimes to have to correct bad teaching or misinformation.

[00:08:11] [SPEAKER_00]: And we see chapter 5 verses 11 through 12. He kind of goes into some of that and impacts that.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_00]: And then finally he kind of finishes this whole little segment here in chapter 5.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_00]: He tells Timothy fight the good fight, but prior to that he spends time in chapter 4,

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_00]: which is what I want to take a look at real briefly here,

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_00]: is to keep a close watch on your personal life and your teaching to put it another way.

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_00]: His whole exhortation to Timothy is make sure that you have this idea of cultivating

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_00]: virtue in your life while simultaneously being able to faithfully proclaim the word of God

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_00]: and pastor people and do all these things that we've been talking about.

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Because like at the end of the day, you are going to be opening your mouth

[00:08:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and opening your Bible to communicate on any level, whether it be a five-year-old

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_00]: or a prison ministry or just have a little local Bible study at the coffee shop.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is that you're doing, there is an element of shepherding and pastoring that has evolved.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You're not just transferring information or depositing facts into someone else's life.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: You're opening the words of life, just as we've heard over the past few days.

[00:09:18] [SPEAKER_00]: That does involve some degree of processing that information

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and then becoming people that are shaped and remade by the life of Jesus.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to think of 1 Timothy in kind of a bigger context,

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_00]: you can even lump 2 Timothy into this as well.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_00]: I think Paul was really trying to coach Timothy in this idea of recognizing that right teaching with right living

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_00]: will rightly reflect the grace and beauty of Jesus.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_00]: But conversely, the same mystery as well.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Wrong teaching with any form of combination of wrong living.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_00]: So in other words you can be, have very solid Bible teaching down

[00:09:56] [SPEAKER_00]: and hermeneutics down and good expositional teaching down

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_00]: and be a very gifted charismatic preacher, but not be living the gospel rightly or well.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And therefore that brings about a distortion of Jesus.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Same way you could also be like, hey, I'm living in certain elements of my life that look like Jesus,

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_00]: caring for the poor, loving the marginalized, being someone that is a servant to all.

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But your doctrine is not on.

[00:10:24] [SPEAKER_00]: It's false. It's off.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_00]: It's there's distortions about how you see Jesus and how you communicate Jesus.

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_00]: And all of that is we bring some degree of distortion to who Jesus is.

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_00]: So Paul knew that it was possible.

[00:10:38] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is where I think kind of gets to where I want to look at here this morning.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Paul knew that it was possible to basically lose oneself or lose one's sense of God's given identity to them

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_00]: or personal virtue in the pursuit of doing good.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_00]: So he's exhorting Timothy like, hey, make sure that you don't lose touch with these realities of good virtue.

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Because it's very possible, Timothy, I think Paul would say that by standing up for righteousness,

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_00]: by conveying the gospel accurately, by rebuking those that are going different ways than what I have set forth.

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's possible for you, Timothy, to become a cantankerous, angry distortion of the love of God.

[00:11:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to ask for a quick show of hands.

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_00]: How many of you have had some mentor in your life, spiritual leader in the upstream of your life

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_00]: that has failed or has had some form of scandal that has left you grieved in your soul,

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe scandalized, maybe even brought you to the edge of even questioning your very faith?

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Anybody? Raise your hands. My hands are raised. Multiple times my hand is raised.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I've seen it on repeat too many times that I even care to talk about.

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm still honestly like working through the trauma of some of them because it's mind numbing.

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think it's important for us to even pause and reflect upon the reality

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that all of us can potentially go down this path.

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_00]: All of us can lose ourselves in this pursuit of goodness.

[00:12:18] [SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of sort of the narrative of every hero movie, right?

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean even Star Wars, right? Darth Vader.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_00]: Started out not as Darth Vader. Started out as a guy that was kind of like fighting

[00:12:28] [SPEAKER_00]: kind of for the, I guess, good side but eventually drifted over to the dark side.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of hero movies are kind of like this.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_00]: The question that kind of rises at some point like, are they good? Are they bad?

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_00]: Well actually what seems to be happening is they are losing themselves in the pursuit

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_00]: of righteousness or pursuit of justice.

[00:12:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And as a result of that, they are taking upon themselves the instruments,

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: instruments of darkness and those instruments of darkness are consuming them

[00:12:55] [SPEAKER_00]: and distorting them and destroying them.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very possible in our pursuit of wanting to effectively

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_00]: and faithfully teach the Bible on whatever level.

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_00]: From the smallest to pastoring churches or mega churches, whatever it is that you do

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_00]: to lose yourself.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think what Paul wants to bring to the uppermost awareness

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_00]: is that this matters because how Jesus has portrayed matters.

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_00]: This is Paul's heartbeat.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Paul had a very deeply Christ centered hermeneutic at the center of everything he did.

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_00]: It's interwoven throughout all of his writings and it's written throughout this book.

[00:13:39] [SPEAKER_00]: So in the context of this, I want to jump right into this,

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_00]: that Paul begins to exhort Timothy to really keep this close watch upon himself

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_00]: and there's three things that I think Paul would remind Timothy

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_00]: and then obviously consequently us as we are eavesdropping, if you would, upon this letter.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_00]: This is not a letter written to us per se, it was written to Timothy,

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_00]: but we get the benefit from it which is awesome.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_00]: The whole Bible is like that by the way. I don't know if you knew that,

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_00]: that most of these books were written to other people.

[00:14:10] [SPEAKER_00]: We get to read that, we get to think about that, we get to process that.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_00]: We also get the benefit from that.

[00:14:15] [SPEAKER_00]: But primarily this was written to Timothy that lived in an actual time in age

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_00]: and faced actual challenges in different people and so on and so forth.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_00]: And Paul's exhortation is threefold in this context.

[00:14:27] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to look at number one, Paul wants to urge Timothy to guard himself.

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So we are to guard yourself as he's writing Timothy number one from drift.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Number one from drift. Take a look at chapter four verse one.

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_00]: He says the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith

[00:14:44] [SPEAKER_00]: or drift from the faith. Hello. Have you guys seen that?

[00:14:49] [SPEAKER_00]: Right? By the way, this, you know, the latter times phrase,

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to get into an unpacking of all this, but this has been going on for quite some time.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Like this whole drift thing has been happening since day one.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_00]: And yes, we see it today but it's not novel. It's been going on for a long time.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_00]: Timothy faced this and what I think Paul's exhortation to him is

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_00]: guard yourself from drift by way of, first Timothy chapter four verse six,

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_00]: so skipping on down by putting these things before the brothers

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_00]: that will be a good servant of Christ Jesus before being or being trained.

[00:15:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of your translations actually might use the word nourish,

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_00]: skip on down a little bit further is going to use the same word trained.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_00]: So the English in some of your translations might ESV says trained in both of them,

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_00]: but it's actually different Greek word. This particular word that's used here

[00:15:37] [SPEAKER_00]: refers to nourish nourish in the words of faith and of good doctrine.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_00]: So let me read this again. Putting these things before your brothers,

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_00]: you'll be a good servant of Christ Jesus. How many of you guys want to be a good servant of Christ Jesus?

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_00]: I do. Man, it'd be a horrible thing to get to the end of my life and mean not be a good servant

[00:15:57] [SPEAKER_00]: to hear the words, hey, you're a great Bible teacher, which by the way, I don't think I am,

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_00]: but you lost yourself in the midst of that.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to be a good servant. I think we all want to be a good servant.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We really want to be good servants of Christ Jesus.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_00]: And here's Paul's way of saying that putting these things before the brothers,

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_00]: these things in the gospel, these things of keeping Christ centered,

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_00]: central to all things, you will be a good servant of Christ Jesus being nourished

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_00]: in the words of life and of the good doctrine or good teaching.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_00]: Later on, Paul would write in 1 Timothy chapter one or just say earlier in this entire book,

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_00]: he's 1 Timothy chapter one verses five through seven.

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_00]: He alludes to the fact that there was this issue that was going on, which he references here.

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_00]: He says the aim of our charge is love. It's important to know that Paul frames everything

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_00]: within the context of what he's doing, these churches that he's planting,

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_00]: these churches that he's raising up leaders like Timothy to lead in the context.

[00:17:02] [SPEAKER_00]: He's literally framing all this.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_00]: The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart, a good conscience and sincere faith.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_00]: I would describe that as virtue becoming a virtuous person.

[00:17:16] [SPEAKER_00]: Scripture speaks a lot about virtue and what it looks like to embody virtue.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_00]: Why? Because we care about how we virtue signal or signal our goodness.

[00:17:28] [SPEAKER_00]: No, because Jesus is good and virtuous.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_00]: And he rightly reflects Yahweh God and everything that he did.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And because we love Jesus, we want to be like Jesus.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to just talk about Jesus.

[00:17:42] [SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to just speak right truths about Jesus, though that's important.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We want to rightly reflect the one who we love because he rightly reflects Yahweh who loves us.

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes on to say in verse six certain persons having swerved from these things,

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_00]: they have wandered into vain discussion.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Verse seven, here's a little bit of a warning.

[00:18:05] [SPEAKER_00]: They desire to be teachers of the law without understanding.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a reference a lot of scholars believe later on in Second Timothy,

[00:18:12] [SPEAKER_00]: he describes her homogenes and philetus.

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And there's some discussion as to like exactly who these people are.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_00]: But bottom line is they seem to be people that Paul's referencing,

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_00]: calling them out by name to this young protege saying, hey, be aware of these guys.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You know who these guys are.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_00]: You know that they're gifted teachers.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_00]: They're able to do stuff in terms of unpacking the law and communicate things about the Torah and whatnot.

[00:18:39] [SPEAKER_00]: But the point of the matter is something about them,

[00:18:41] [SPEAKER_00]: he says that they have wandered away and then he goes on to say in vain discussion

[00:18:45] [SPEAKER_00]: and they want to be teachers, they want to be known and they want to be recognized.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_00]: But their heart, the very core of their heart has drifted from love, love for God, love for others,

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_00]: love for the lost, drifted.

[00:19:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Number two is Paul would urge Timothy to guard himself and for us to guard ourselves from deceitful narratives.

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Take a look at verse one chapter four verse one, the little segment to the right.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He says devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and the teachings of demons.

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_00]: So his whole point seems to be that what's going on here is that it's not just bad teaching.

[00:19:30] [SPEAKER_00]: It's devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons.

[00:19:34] [SPEAKER_00]: So something's going on within the midst of Paul's church that he's caring for vicariously through Timothy

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: that has to do with like bad, not just bad doctrine, but there's some form of deceitful narrative that's at play.

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_00]: And what Paul wants to do is he wants to bring him back.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_00]: So he is in essence saying guard yourself from deceitful narratives by way of take a look at verse seven,

[00:20:01] [SPEAKER_00]: having chapter four verse seven, having nothing to do with irrelevant or silly myths.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's something to be found and I like to think of it this way.

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Is it possible to become so focused on the Bible that you treat the Bible like a hobby?

[00:20:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But the Christian life and the lifestyle as sort of tangential or marginal.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you could do it if you want.

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_00]: It's hardcore.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_00]: I grew up in the context where I was surrounded by people that really truly love scriptures,

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_00]: love the Bible.

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it wasn't until years later I began to realize it's like they're hobbyist Christians.

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_00]: They love the Bible like it's a really amazing hobby.

[00:20:41] [SPEAKER_00]: You know these people, right?

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Some of these people that have certain hobbies,

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_00]: they can tell you everything about certain unique factoids because they're hobbyists.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_00]: The Bible can become like that and there's this incongruity between their life,

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_00]: how they live, how they act, how they treat others, how they treat their spouse,

[00:21:00] [SPEAKER_00]: how they treat their children, how they are interacting with the community around them

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_00]: or how they act as followers of Jesus or rightly reflect him

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_00]: and their ability to not only consume biblical content but also at the same time convey biblical content.

[00:21:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think this sometimes leads us to these deceitful narratives that are going on.

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: So we can have these deceitful narratives by way of lies that we believe,

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: either about ourselves or about others, about God, misinformation, getting caught up in self-pity.

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_00]: These are things, narcissistic tendencies.

[00:21:36] [SPEAKER_00]: All of this can sometimes have, will always have a massive impact upon how we think about God

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: and how we ultimately live our lives.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_00]: I also think about social media.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Social media is a narrative generator.

[00:21:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of times you tend to think of social media as being benign,

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: not impacting on your soul.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: It's totally, that's a myth.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_00]: It's totally impacting upon us.

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not saying avoid it.

[00:22:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying don't be foolish.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: Use it if you feel like that's where God wants you to be.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_00]: If that's the marketplace of the world, if that's the spot, God says be a part of that.

[00:22:19] [SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, don't be naive to the shaping factors that it generates certain narratives about you,

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_00]: about the world, about how we are to view God.

[00:22:31] [SPEAKER_00]: And so I think Paul is saying be aware of these types of things, be aware of these deceitful narratives

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: that will distort our view of God and as it distorts our view of God or even distort our view of ourselves,

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_00]: then that will distort how we live our lives.

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Radically, I said this to our church all the time, like if you had a view of God

[00:22:50] [SPEAKER_00]: that he is this very angry, frustrated landlord and you are a squatter on his property.

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: What type of a relationship would you have with landlord God?

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Not very good.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: You'd be running from him, dodging him.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It's the very opposite of what Jesus portrays about Yahweh.

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: But that's a distortion.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a deceitful narrative.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And lastly, guard yourself from desensitization.

[00:23:17] [SPEAKER_00]: Take a look at verse two.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He says whose consciences are seared as with a hot eye.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_00]: The word that's used there is like burned.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_00]: The concept there is like branding.

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You guys all familiar with the idea of branding, putting something on some as a form of property.

[00:23:34] [SPEAKER_00]: But the way it does that is it kills living flesh or living tissue

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: so that it's no longer capable or able to actually feeling anything or sensing anything.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Jump on down as he's urging to guard himself from desensitization by way of verses seven through ten.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Training yourself for Godliness.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes on to say we all know that bodily training does some good

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_00]: but Godliness is of value in every way as it holds the promise for the present and for life, for those to come.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_00]: So it would seem as if Paul's invitation to Timothy is be aware of those whose conscience are seared.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's a subtle hint of like you yourself, Timothy,

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_00]: be aware that your conscience does not find itself getting seared.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_00]: And the way that you do that is by combat that is or undo that is by way of training yourself.

[00:24:29] [SPEAKER_00]: This is the word training that basically involves bodily exercise, involves discipline

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_00]: and how we think about our lives and what we do in terms of interaction.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_00]: Again, say this before I think worthy of saying this.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_00]: We are not saved by our works.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_00]: It's very clear like we're saved by grace alone.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_00]: However, those who follow Jesus also realize we are called to follow Jesus

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_00]: means there are decisions, daily decisions you and I make to follow Jesus.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Daily decisions to prioritize Christ as being central in our lives.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_00]: That involves our actions, our activities, the disciplines, how we think about our day

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_00]: and how we think about our weeks and our lives in general.

[00:25:09] [SPEAKER_00]: And yet it's very easy for us to be shaped by all sorts of other factors within our culture around us.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And as a result of that, we are oftentimes finding ourselves dealing with numbness,

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_00]: being unable to feel, lacking awe.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Another word for this is boredom.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_00]: And these practices are intended to break us out of these habits of boredom.

[00:25:36] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this seems kind of shocking because you can be someone that's studying the Bible over and over and over again

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and it just becomes like routine textbook.

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Like you're just looking, searching for sermons.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_00]: And especially for those that have done it for quite some time,

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_00]: it's very easy to just kind of get locked into certain rhythms or habits or systems

[00:25:54] [SPEAKER_00]: and you lose a sense of awe and amazement of Jesus.

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's a tragedy.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And in conclusion, there is a Christian philosopher, a guy by the name of Peter Krief.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_00]: He is a brilliant writer, brilliant speaker.

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_00]: He's from a Catholic tradition, so I don't necessarily obviously agree with everything,

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_00]: but you can search him out on YouTube.

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_00]: He's got amazing YouTube videos to watch and he's just a fantastic thinker.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_00]: He has this teaching series or this book even from all of that that is called Jesus Shock

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_00]: and within that his whole idea that he's trying to convey or paradigm is trying to push forth

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_00]: is that as a culture, we have lost Jesus Shock.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Like we're not amazed in awe of Jesus and something happens to our soul when that takes place.

[00:26:44] [SPEAKER_00]: And in our boredom, we find ourselves turning to other things.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_00]: We find ourselves longing for other things to somehow shock us to make us feel that we're actually alive.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_00]: And this is the shocking reality in our culture that we find ourselves.

[00:26:57] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes on to say this, our culture has filled our heads but emptied our hearts,

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_00]: stuffed our wallets but starved our wonder.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It has fed our thirst for facts but not meaning or mystery.

[00:27:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Everything smaller than heaven bores us because only heaven is bigger than our hearts.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_00]: He goes on to say we sin for no reason but an incomprehensible lack of love that we sense.

[00:27:25] [SPEAKER_00]: He saved us for no other reason but an incomprehensible excess of love for us.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think Paul's invitation to Timothy is, son, don't lose yourself.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't lose your sense of identity that God has given to you.

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't lose contact with a life of virtue, of goodness because what you teach about God,

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_00]: what you believe about God needs to correspond with how we live with God.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, it's very easy for any of us and this terrifies me to be really frankly,

[00:28:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing ministry for three decades plus.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_00]: It terrifies me that I could end up radically misrepresenting Jesus in my life

[00:28:24] [SPEAKER_00]: by one or several bad decisions away.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That terrifies me.

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't live in fear as a result of that but what it does,

[00:28:33] [SPEAKER_00]: it drives me back to the heart of this God who has excess of love

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_00]: and say I want to be saturated and shaped and remade and framed around all of this

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_00]: so much so that when I have opportunities to open my mouth and talk about you,

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to misrepresent you by what I say or by how I live.

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can only do that by way of the power and the strength that he gives.

[00:29:05] [SPEAKER_00]: And Paul, I think was driven consistently by this vision of this radical love of God

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_00]: that was revealed through Jesus.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's the invitation for us to be shaped by that vision

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_00]: of radical, excessive, beautiful, life-changing beauty

[00:29:23] [SPEAKER_00]: that we become not just communicators but livers.

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_00]: People that live this message that we seek to speak forth

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: as clearly and as accurately and as beautifully as we can.

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Alright, hey thanks for listening or thanks for watching if you're over there on YouTube.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_01]: We want to help you grow in your personal study and public proclamation of God's word

[00:29:51] [SPEAKER_01]: but of course we're not just here about tips and tricks.

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_01]: We want your character to live in submission to and to be honoring

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_01]: of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't want to just preach the right things

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_01]: but we also want to be living in the right way.

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_01]: So, thankful for Brian's guidance, reminding us of these truths.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Well I hope that this episode and all that we do helps you grow in your personal study

[00:30:22] [SPEAKER_01]: and public proclamation of God's word.

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_01]: See you next Tuesday.

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