In this episode of the CGN Podcast, hosts Daniel Williams and Brian Brodersen sit down with pastor, author, and conference speaker Heath Hardesty to discuss ministry, church leadership, discipleship, and what it means to faithfully follow Jesus in a fractured world.
Heath shares the story of planting a next-generation ministry in the heart of Silicon Valley, navigating the challenges of merging church communities, and learning patience, humility, and trust through seasons of leadership. He reflects on how God has renewed his love for the ordinary work of pastoring and the joy of shepherding people faithfully.
The conversation explores the growing fragmentation of modern culture and Heath’s vision for the Church to become a compelling witness of integration, beauty, truth, and goodness in a divided world. Drawing from themes in his book All Things Together, Heath encourages believers to embrace apprenticeship to Jesus—not as an optional spiritual extra, but as the very essence of Christian life.
They also discuss the importance of ministry friendships, learning communities, and conferences as places of encouragement and growth, along with Heath’s unique outreach through Inkling’s Coffee & Tea, a church-founded coffee shop designed to cultivate beauty, meaningful conversations, and Gospel presence in the community.
Whether you’re a pastor, ministry leader, or simply seeking encouragement in your walk with Jesus, this conversation offers practical wisdom for staying faithful, slowing down, cultivating wonder, and continuing to trust God in difficult seasons.




