Born in 1831 in England, Isabella Bird lived in a time and culture when it was considered unfashionable for a woman to travel alone, let alone go on explorations. Though Isabel was a tiny woman and suffered all her life with bad health, she became one of the foremost explorers and travel writers of her day! She was the first white woman to climb Mauna Loa in Hawaii, survey the Rockies of Colorado, travel the interior of Japan, sail up the Yangtze River in China,and scale the Himalayas, among other firsts. Not only did this intrepid traveler accomplish all these feats, but she also documented them with her pen and paper. Join us as we discuss the extraordinary life and adventures of this valiant, fearless Christian woman.
- So: A Curious Life for a Lady: The Story of Isabella Bird by Pat Barr
- Wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabella_Bird
- Isabella Bird - Colorado Women's Hall of Fame
- cogreatwomen.org
- https://www.womeninexploration.org/timeline/isabella-bird/
[00:00:04] Welcome to Women Worth Knowing, the radio program and podcast hosted by Cheryl Brodersen and Robin Jones Gunn
[00:00:12] Cheryl and I love to bring you another woman who is obviously worth knowing because every woman is worth knowing
[00:00:19] And the one we have this week is what I have been really looking forward to
[00:00:23] Cheryl has done intense research, I know little bits, I've read little bits
[00:00:27] But I'm so glad you did a real deep dive on this woman because she's going to amaze us all, I'm sure
[00:00:34] And you know, you wouldn't believe how much I had to cut out because the book I read went into quite a bit of detail about each of the places she visited
[00:00:43] So for those who are curious, who are they doing? It's a woman named Isabella Bird Bishop
[00:00:49] She's an English woman and she's renowned as an explorer
[00:00:54] And the reason that Robin knows of her is because she wrote a book on her visit to Hawaii
[00:01:00] Yes, six months in the Sandwich Islands
[00:01:03] That's right, and you are kind of
[00:01:04] And I love all things
[00:01:05] All things Hawaii
[00:01:06] History, yes
[00:01:07] I love it, and you know, that's kind of part of the reason we love to do this too because we love history
[00:01:12] And I really love these women of history that I didn't know about before
[00:01:17] I get so excited on a discovery and I had never heard of Isabella before
[00:01:22] But a few weeks ago, I did one on Mary Bird
[00:01:25] And Mary Bird, it was like, oh, and she went to Persia because she had this aunt who had been there
[00:01:30] And her name was Isabella Bird Bishop and she was a famous explorer in England
[00:01:35] I'm like, what? I haven't heard of this woman
[00:01:37] This happens because we find one woman who happens to know another woman and we want to know more
[00:01:42] That's exactly it
[00:01:43] So Isabella was an author, an explorer, a naturalist, a photographer, and a constant student of, you know, every place she went
[00:01:53] Which I love her thirst for information, for knowledge
[00:01:58] And she was a keen observer of everything she saw
[00:02:02] Which I long to be
[00:02:04] I have a daughter who's just such a keen observer
[00:02:07] And a grandson like that
[00:02:09] But me, you could have worn the same outfit 20 times and I'll be like, oh, I really like that
[00:02:15] And you're like, you saw me in this
[00:02:17] So I really appreciate that
[00:02:19] Well, and we love how Isabella was so descriptive of everything
[00:02:23] Maybe a little bit overly
[00:02:25] Yes, we're going to find that she has honesty running, coursing through her veins
[00:02:31] Very, very honest woman
[00:02:34] If nothing else we can give her, we can definitely say honest
[00:02:37] But there's so much to commend about Isabella
[00:02:40] And you're going to hear it right now
[00:02:43] So she's the daughter of Edward Byrd and Dora Lawson
[00:02:47] And she was born in October 15, 1831
[00:02:51] So what's remarkable about this too
[00:02:53] Is she was born in a time when women were not esteemed
[00:02:58] Before women had the vote
[00:03:00] Before women had jobs or were really seen in the public spectrum at all
[00:03:06] Right
[00:03:06] And it was a time when women were really not supposed to go any place unchaperoned
[00:03:12] So that's what makes her just extremely unique too
[00:03:17] So she was born in a place called Burrow Bridge Hall up in Yorkshire
[00:03:22] And this was where her grandmother on her mother, so her maternal grandmother lived
[00:03:28] And her father went there to be the first curate or the vicar of the parish of Burrow Bridge Hall
[00:03:38] Now, her grandfather on her father's side had been the head of the revenue department of the provinces of northwest India
[00:03:47] And her father, when he was young in his 20s
[00:03:50] He had become a barrister
[00:03:52] Which is what we would call like a lawyer or a judge
[00:03:55] And he had moved to India with his first wife
[00:03:59] After he had taken his law degree
[00:04:01] While he was in India, his wife gave birth to a baby boy
[00:04:05] And he had lived there with her happily
[00:04:07] And both his son and his wife died while he was in India
[00:04:12] And he came back
[00:04:14] And it put him on this search for meaning and for the purpose of life
[00:04:20] And through that search, and he was related to a lot of clergy
[00:04:24] William Wilberforce was a cousin
[00:04:26] So he had this Christian influence that he had never really taken for himself
[00:04:33] But this caused him to receive Jesus
[00:04:37] And he became zealous for the Lord and decided to become a vicar
[00:04:42] So they said that he actually was not converted until he was 38 years old
[00:04:47] Interesting
[00:04:48] And that's when he, you know, decided to become a vicar
[00:04:52] He remarried Dora Lawson and had two girls with her
[00:04:59] The first that we talked about was, of course, Isabella
[00:05:02] She's the oldest daughter
[00:05:04] Edward, the father, was strong, passionate, and a Christian philanthropist
[00:05:09] So he was always trying to do good
[00:05:12] He also was frail in his physique and highly stressed
[00:05:16] Always kind of stressed
[00:05:18] And yet Isabella just absolutely adored her father
[00:05:21] And found no fault in him at all
[00:05:23] Her mother loved to teach children
[00:05:27] That was like her favorite thing
[00:05:28] And she loved to do Bible classes with children
[00:05:32] And I think of it kind of like the original Good News Clubs
[00:05:35] Yes, that's near and dear to your heart
[00:05:37] That's right
[00:05:37] I love Mrs. Grimshaw, my Good News teacher
[00:05:40] And I loved Kay Madison, who hosted it at her house
[00:05:45] But I love Good News Clubs
[00:05:46] So that's what she did
[00:05:47] She even hired a room wherever she was living
[00:05:52] So she could teach Sunday school
[00:05:54] The work with children was her life's passion
[00:05:58] So now she's got, you know, she's just this ardent lover of Jesus
[00:06:02] Bible stories and children
[00:06:04] But her husband is a little bit prickly
[00:06:07] And he gets this bee in his bonnet against men and women working on Sundays
[00:06:14] He wants it to be like a full Sabbath
[00:06:17] And that begins to be the thing he preaches about more than anything else
[00:06:22] About the need for a complete Sabbath rest
[00:06:25] Well, it didn't go well up in Yorkshire
[00:06:29] Because most of the men in Yorkshire are farmers
[00:06:31] Right
[00:06:32] And so church attendants dropped off
[00:06:36] So they transferred him to a place called Tatton Hall in Cheshire
[00:06:39] And that's where Henrietta, Isabella's younger sister, was born
[00:06:44] And from the moment Henrietta was born, Isabella thought she was her own
[00:06:49] She just took full ownership of Henrietta
[00:06:53] Just absolutely adored Henrietta
[00:06:57] And as Henrietta grew up
[00:06:59] They realized her temperament was almost the opposite of Isabella's
[00:07:05] So Henrietta's temperament was more like her mother's
[00:07:08] Easygoing, unobtrusive, faithful, studious
[00:07:12] Little bit dreamy, but very constant
[00:07:16] You always knew what you were going to get with Henrietta
[00:07:18] And she also adored Isabella as much as Isabella loved her
[00:07:24] Sweet
[00:07:24] Isn't that sweet?
[00:07:26] So Isabella was outspoken, curious, and discerning even as a child
[00:07:31] And there aren't very many stories about Isabella that are left
[00:07:35] But this one remains
[00:07:36] And this was something that her parents used to like to tell over and over again
[00:07:40] That at six years old, she was listening to a man who was looking to get votes
[00:07:46] He was campaigning in their area
[00:07:47] And he looked at her little sister Henrietta
[00:07:50] And he said, oh, what a pretty little girl
[00:07:53] And Henrietta actually would have said
[00:07:56] Oh, what a pretty little girl
[00:07:58] And Henrietta looked up at him
[00:08:01] Now remember, she's only six
[00:08:02] And she says, Sir Malpas de Grey Tatton Eagerton
[00:08:07] The whole name
[00:08:08] I mean, that's a lot to remember
[00:08:11] Did you tell my father, my sister was so pretty
[00:08:14] Because you want his vote?
[00:08:15] Oh, okay
[00:08:16] Is that honest?
[00:08:18] It shows her personality right there
[00:08:20] It really does
[00:08:20] No guile
[00:08:21] Very straightforward
[00:08:22] Yes
[00:08:22] She wants the truth
[00:08:23] She wants the right information
[00:08:25] And she remembered his whole name
[00:08:27] Which shows her observance
[00:08:29] Her ability to capture something
[00:08:31] And to remember it
[00:08:33] Isabella esteemed honesty
[00:08:36] Even as a child above all else
[00:08:39] And later in her writings
[00:08:40] That would definitely show itself
[00:08:43] Because at times
[00:08:44] Her descriptions of places and people
[00:08:47] Would be brutal
[00:08:49] They would not be flattering
[00:08:50] They could be absolutely brutal
[00:08:52] Because they were without hypocrisy
[00:08:54] And there was no romanticizing
[00:08:58] About what she was seeing
[00:09:02] Isabella was
[00:09:04] She was homeschooled
[00:09:06] You might say
[00:09:07] But she was an avid student
[00:09:09] So she learned Latin, French, drawing, literature
[00:09:13] And botany from her mother and father
[00:09:15] But later
[00:09:17] When she could pursue learning herself
[00:09:20] She learned chemistry, biology, metaphysical poetry
[00:09:24] And hymnology
[00:09:25] Wow
[00:09:25] So she absolutely loved the hymns
[00:09:28] She was captivated by the hymns
[00:09:30] She loved the romance of the hymns
[00:09:31] She loved the doctrine of the hymns
[00:09:34] She loved the lyrical content of the hymns
[00:09:36] And she even loved to study the musical scores
[00:09:40] Like why did they put this music with these lyrics
[00:09:43] And she also loved the stories of how the hymns were written
[00:09:47] Yes
[00:09:48] And we all love that
[00:09:49] Yes, we do
[00:09:50] That's wonderful
[00:09:51] Don't you?
[00:09:51] And the stories behind
[00:09:52] So Isabella, even as a child, loved to sketch
[00:09:55] And she was proficient at it
[00:09:57] Every summer, her family would visit her grandfather
[00:10:00] Who had retired from India to Taplow Hall
[00:10:02] And the children loved to play in the fields
[00:10:05] Have singing parties at night in the great hall
[00:10:09] And there they would also listen to lectures
[00:10:13] Sometimes her grandfather would read letters from missionaries
[00:10:17] And they were taught about the events
[00:10:19] They had like kind of a current event time
[00:10:21] Their grandfather felt like his grandchildren
[00:10:23] Should be so informed about everything that was going on in the whole world
[00:10:27] So these were just really, really special times
[00:10:31] Also because it was just herself and her sister
[00:10:34] Henrietta and Isabella loved to get together with all their cousins
[00:10:39] And they had quite a few boy cousins
[00:10:42] But both Isabella and Henrietta suffered from bad health
[00:10:46] Now Henrietta would kind of look on at the sidelines
[00:10:50] And just cheer everyone on
[00:10:51] But Isabella refused to let her health be a setback at all
[00:10:56] And she climbed further than anybody else
[00:11:01] She would climb trees
[00:11:03] She outrode everybody
[00:11:06] Even though it was painful for her
[00:11:07] She would ride all the horses
[00:11:09] She hiked more than anybody else
[00:11:12] She was determined to outdo everyone
[00:11:16] Even being reckless in her play
[00:11:20] And in her adventures
[00:11:23] That she would have with her cousins
[00:11:26] She was not going to be left out of anything
[00:11:30] Isabella's grandfather died when she was 11
[00:11:33] And she was so grieved
[00:11:35] Because the wonderful gatherings at Taplow Hall
[00:11:37] Came to an end
[00:11:39] That same year, her father was transferred
[00:11:44] From
[00:11:46] Winton
[00:11:46] To a place in Birmingham
[00:11:49] Now, she hated Birmingham
[00:11:52] But he also got kicked out of the last place he had been in
[00:11:55] And the reason he got kicked out of the last place that he had been in
[00:12:00] Is because the people of the place where he was transferred
[00:12:08] They loved Tatton Hall in Cheshire
[00:12:10] Those people all made cheese
[00:12:12] You've probably heard of Cheshire Cheese
[00:12:14] So they were famous for cheese
[00:12:16] And they milked their cows and made their cheese
[00:12:18] They did a certain process on Sundays
[00:12:20] And when he began to preach about a full Sabbath
[00:12:24] On Sundays, he emptied the church in Tatton Hall
[00:12:27] Just emptied it completely
[00:12:29] So because there were no people
[00:12:31] They transferred him to Birmingham
[00:12:32] Now, the people there
[00:12:33] They didn't care if they weren't supposed to work on the Sunday
[00:12:37] They were all city people
[00:12:39] And they didn't have farms or upkeep
[00:12:41] Or industrial
[00:12:42] Right
[00:12:43] Any type
[00:12:44] Regular hours
[00:12:45] Right, they loved having a day off
[00:12:46] So they were just fine with everything
[00:12:48] And again, he was received really well
[00:12:51] But Isabella hated it
[00:12:54] She hated the city
[00:12:55] She hated the confines of the city
[00:12:58] She longed for nature
[00:12:59] For trees
[00:13:00] For grass
[00:13:01] For animals
[00:13:02] And horses
[00:13:03] And to climb
[00:13:05] And to explore
[00:13:07] She did teach Sunday school classes
[00:13:10] And train the choir
[00:13:11] And worked as closely as she could
[00:13:12] With the father that she adored
[00:13:14] And because of his success
[00:13:15] She tried really hard to be happy for him
[00:13:18] In 1848
[00:13:20] Reverend Byrd's health began to break down
[00:13:23] Being in Birmingham
[00:13:24] This industrial city
[00:13:25] And so the family then moved to Whiteton
[00:13:28] Which had a population of 300
[00:13:30] So he had a small little parish there
[00:13:33] Quite a difference
[00:13:34] Right
[00:13:34] And they lived there for the next 10 years
[00:13:37] Isabella was 17 when they moved
[00:13:39] In 1849
[00:13:41] At 18 years old
[00:13:42] Isabella went through a surgery
[00:13:44] To remove a tumor
[00:13:45] That was lodged at the base of her spine
[00:13:48] Can you imagine?
[00:13:49] No, I mean
[00:13:50] 1849
[00:13:51] Yes
[00:13:51] But here's the good news
[00:13:53] Wow
[00:13:53] In 1847
[00:13:54] A doctor
[00:13:56] James Simpson
[00:13:58] Introduced chloroform to surgery in Scotland
[00:14:01] And Scotland was one of the first
[00:14:04] To start using chloroform for surgeries
[00:14:07] And Dr. James Simpson
[00:14:09] One of the reasons he did it
[00:14:10] Is he had watched a woman
[00:14:11] Having to get a mastectomy
[00:14:13] While he was studying medicine
[00:14:15] And she was screaming
[00:14:16] There was nothing to put her out
[00:14:18] And it so wrecked him
[00:14:19] That he ran out of the classroom
[00:14:20] And he said
[00:14:21] I cannot be a doctor
[00:14:22] Unless there's, you know
[00:14:24] Unless there is some kind of
[00:14:29] Pain resolution for these patients
[00:14:31] So he ended up studying law
[00:14:34] But still felt called to medicine
[00:14:36] Like you've got to help these people
[00:14:38] He had heard about these discoveries
[00:14:40] In chloroform
[00:14:41] So he started experimenting
[00:14:43] With chloroform on himself
[00:14:45] And then he introduced it
[00:14:48] To the Edinburgh College of Medicine
[00:14:50] And for goodness
[00:14:54] You know, thank the Lord
[00:14:56] It was in use by 1849
[00:14:59] When she had the surgery
[00:15:00] That's amazing
[00:15:01] It's so good
[00:15:02] Because I thought
[00:15:03] How did she do this?
[00:15:05] And then I decided
[00:15:07] Wait, did they have chloroform?
[00:15:08] And found out Scotland did
[00:15:10] And that was where they
[00:15:12] They were living
[00:15:13] Now is that where
[00:15:14] Whiteton is located?
[00:15:16] It's right on the edge
[00:15:16] W-Y-T-O-N
[00:15:17] So that Yorkshire move
[00:15:19] Was then on to Scotland
[00:15:20] Yeah, north
[00:15:20] And they were able to go to Scotland
[00:15:21] Okay
[00:15:23] So it was partially successful
[00:15:27] Partially
[00:15:27] Partially, isn't that a sad word?
[00:15:29] But for the sake of recovery
[00:15:31] The family would visit
[00:15:32] The Scottish Highlands
[00:15:33] Every summer
[00:15:33] And probably go back
[00:15:35] Visit the doctor
[00:15:35] Who had done the surgery
[00:15:38] But she loved
[00:15:39] The Scottish Highlands
[00:15:40] And amazingly enough
[00:15:41] In Whiteton
[00:15:42] She would be listless
[00:15:44] And, you know, have no energy
[00:15:47] And she would spend her time
[00:15:48] Just, you know, studying
[00:15:49] Reading books
[00:15:50] And doing needlework
[00:15:51] But when she was in the Highlands
[00:15:53] She came alive
[00:15:54] She rode horses
[00:15:55] She climbed mountains
[00:15:56] Really?
[00:15:56] She floated streams
[00:15:58] She took hikes
[00:15:59] She absolutely loved the Highlands
[00:16:03] In Whiteton
[00:16:05] She suffered headaches
[00:16:07] And pains
[00:16:09] Insomnia
[00:16:09] Depression
[00:16:11] So it was really, really hard
[00:16:14] But I just think it's amazing
[00:16:16] That here she is
[00:16:17] 17, 18 years old
[00:16:18] A surgery
[00:16:20] Right
[00:16:21] With a tumor on her spine
[00:16:22] Which is very unusual
[00:16:24] To
[00:16:24] And what a brave thing
[00:16:25] To do too
[00:16:26] But we know
[00:16:26] She lived a very long
[00:16:27] And full life
[00:16:29] And I just think
[00:16:30] That gives hope
[00:16:31] To people who are
[00:16:32] At a certain
[00:16:33] Right
[00:16:33] Stuck spot in their life
[00:16:35] Going, am I ever going to get better?
[00:16:36] And you don't know
[00:16:37] What God has for you
[00:16:38] Right
[00:16:38] And she credited
[00:16:40] Some of her recklessness
[00:16:42] and some of her fearlessness
[00:16:44] To
[00:16:44] I'm already experiencing pain
[00:16:46] I have nothing to lose
[00:16:48] But this sense of adventure
[00:16:49] Helped her
[00:16:51] Not think about herself
[00:16:52] And her ailments
[00:16:53] And she felt like
[00:16:54] That was
[00:16:55] Not necessarily a cure
[00:16:57] She wasn't pain free
[00:16:58] She was just
[00:17:00] Not as aware of it
[00:17:02] When she was exploring
[00:17:03] Wow
[00:17:03] So
[00:17:04] She was only
[00:17:06] 4 foot
[00:17:07] 11 inches tall
[00:17:08] And always considered frail
[00:17:10] Which is so amazing
[00:17:12] Remember that
[00:17:13] Because of where we're going
[00:17:14] With her story
[00:17:15] In 1954
[00:17:17] Under a doctor
[00:17:18] Sorry
[00:17:18] 1854
[00:17:20] In 1854
[00:17:22] Under a doctor's advice
[00:17:23] She was sent
[00:17:24] On a sea voyage
[00:17:25] To Canada
[00:17:26] And then to the U.S.
[00:17:28] With her cousins
[00:17:29] Her cousins had a house
[00:17:30] In the U.S.
[00:17:32] And so
[00:17:32] Her father gave her
[00:17:33] 100 pounds
[00:17:34] For the journey
[00:17:35] And said
[00:17:35] You know
[00:17:36] Enjoy
[00:17:36] And the doctor
[00:17:37] Felt like the sea era
[00:17:39] Of a voyage
[00:17:40] Would be really good for her
[00:17:41] So they landed in Halifax
[00:17:43] And Isabella
[00:17:44] Begint to write
[00:17:45] From the moment
[00:17:47] She landed
[00:17:47] All about the houses
[00:17:49] In Halifax
[00:17:49] About the voyage
[00:17:51] There
[00:17:52] About the weather
[00:17:54] She loved to
[00:17:55] Interview people
[00:17:56] And talked to them
[00:17:57] What is it like
[00:17:58] To live here
[00:18:00] She would ask questions
[00:18:02] About what's the population
[00:18:03] What is the topography
[00:18:05] What is the main diet
[00:18:08] That you eat
[00:18:09] And wherever she went
[00:18:11] And this will become
[00:18:13] You know
[00:18:15] Habitual for her
[00:18:16] Wherever she went
[00:18:17] She would dress
[00:18:19] Like the people
[00:18:19] And try to live
[00:18:21] Like the people
[00:18:22] Just kind of like
[00:18:22] Do an incarnation
[00:18:23] She had heard
[00:18:25] Later in life
[00:18:26] She had heard about
[00:18:28] One of our heroes
[00:18:31] Hudson Taylor
[00:18:32] And she just loved
[00:18:35] The fact
[00:18:35] That he lived
[00:18:36] Like the Chinese
[00:18:37] And she just said
[00:18:38] Well done
[00:18:39] Because that was
[00:18:40] Something that she
[00:18:41] Had taken on
[00:18:42] Even at this young
[00:18:44] Age of 18
[00:18:45] When she visited
[00:18:46] And there are pictures
[00:18:47] That you can see
[00:18:48] Of her
[00:18:48] And all these places
[00:18:50] She goes
[00:18:51] She has these new outfits
[00:18:52] That are just beautiful
[00:18:54] She does
[00:18:54] She dresses just
[00:18:55] Like the people
[00:18:57] Wherever she is
[00:18:57] So her trip
[00:19:01] From Halifax
[00:19:03] And then she goes
[00:19:05] Into the United States
[00:19:06] To Cincinnati
[00:19:07] Then to Chicago
[00:19:09] To New York
[00:19:11] And then to Nova Scotia
[00:19:12] And back to Halifax
[00:19:14] Was altogether
[00:19:15] 1,000 miles
[00:19:17] That she traveled
[00:19:19] Either
[00:19:19] You know
[00:19:20] By train
[00:19:21] Walking
[00:19:22] Or by
[00:19:23] You know
[00:19:24] A wagon
[00:19:25] So she was
[00:19:29] Writing
[00:19:30] Every day
[00:19:31] About her
[00:19:32] Experienced
[00:19:33] And she would
[00:19:35] Communicate
[00:19:36] Everything that
[00:19:37] She was learning
[00:19:38] And the whole
[00:19:39] Experience in these
[00:19:40] Letters to her
[00:19:41] Sister
[00:19:41] She just
[00:19:42] You know
[00:19:42] Dear Henrietta
[00:19:43] Or dear mother
[00:19:44] And father
[00:19:45] And Henrietta
[00:19:46] And it gave her
[00:19:47] It was like
[00:19:50] An impetus
[00:19:50] To her
[00:19:51] Because she knew
[00:19:51] Her father and mother
[00:19:52] And her sister
[00:19:53] Would never travel
[00:19:54] To these places
[00:19:55] So she wanted
[00:19:56] To capture it
[00:19:57] For little Henrietta
[00:19:58] Who was so docile
[00:19:59] And sickly
[00:20:01] And frail
[00:20:01] And for her mother
[00:20:03] Who was always
[00:20:04] Taking care of her
[00:20:05] Father and her sister
[00:20:06] And for her father
[00:20:07] Who was frail
[00:20:08] She wanted them
[00:20:09] To see it
[00:20:10] To feel it
[00:20:11] To almost
[00:20:12] Have the same
[00:20:12] Senses and experience
[00:20:14] That she was
[00:20:15] Having
[00:20:16] So she wrote
[00:20:17] These just
[00:20:18] These prolific
[00:20:19] Letters
[00:20:20] On her return
[00:20:22] To England
[00:20:24] Henrietta
[00:20:25] Had put
[00:20:27] All the letters
[00:20:28] In a certain order
[00:20:29] And she had
[00:20:31] Met this man
[00:20:32] Named John
[00:20:32] Murray
[00:20:33] Who was
[00:20:34] A publisher
[00:20:35] And so
[00:20:36] She introduced
[00:20:37] It was Henrietta
[00:20:38] Who introduced
[00:20:39] Isabella
[00:20:40] To John Murray
[00:20:41] And they hit it off
[00:20:42] John Murray had
[00:20:43] Loved the descriptions
[00:20:44] Loved the way
[00:20:47] Isabella wrote
[00:20:48] And asked her
[00:20:49] If he could
[00:20:50] Compile it
[00:20:50] Into a book
[00:20:52] Which she did
[00:20:53] And the book
[00:20:54] Was published
[00:20:55] In 1856
[00:20:57] And it was called
[00:20:58] An English Woman
[00:21:00] In America
[00:21:01] Because one of
[00:21:02] The things she did
[00:21:03] Is she didn't
[00:21:03] Try to write
[00:21:04] Like an American
[00:21:05] In America
[00:21:06] She
[00:21:07] She sought
[00:21:08] To see it
[00:21:09] From an English
[00:21:10] Woman's perspective
[00:21:11] She just dressed
[00:21:12] Like they did
[00:21:13] Right
[00:21:13] She dressed
[00:21:13] Like they did
[00:21:14] But her perspective
[00:21:16] Was always English
[00:21:17] This is how
[00:21:18] Henrietta would see it
[00:21:20] This is how
[00:21:21] Her mother
[00:21:21] Would see it
[00:21:22] And so she saw
[00:21:23] It like
[00:21:24] They don't have tea
[00:21:25] When we have tea
[00:21:26] They don't
[00:21:28] You know
[00:21:28] Their schedules
[00:21:30] Are different
[00:21:30] They're busier
[00:21:31] They tend to be
[00:21:32] More industrious
[00:21:33] So she wrote
[00:21:34] From an English
[00:21:35] Woman's perspective
[00:21:37] You know what's
[00:21:37] So interesting
[00:21:38] About that
[00:21:38] Is I've taught
[00:21:39] A lot of
[00:21:39] Writers workshops
[00:21:40] And one thing
[00:21:41] That I have
[00:21:42] Encouraged
[00:21:43] Beginning writers
[00:21:44] To do
[00:21:44] Is to do
[00:21:45] Interviews
[00:21:46] Because you have
[00:21:47] To pay attention
[00:21:48] You have to listen
[00:21:48] And then you have
[00:21:49] To be able
[00:21:50] To capture
[00:21:50] What that
[00:21:51] Essence
[00:21:52] Of that person's
[00:21:53] Life
[00:21:53] Or what
[00:21:54] You're asking
[00:21:55] Them
[00:21:55] You have to be
[00:21:56] Able to
[00:21:56] Summarize that
[00:21:57] You do
[00:21:57] You're more
[00:21:58] Concise
[00:21:58] And then the
[00:21:59] Other thing
[00:21:59] I encourage
[00:22:00] Them to do
[00:22:00] Is to just
[00:22:01] Put together
[00:22:02] These kinds
[00:22:03] Of communications
[00:22:04] To people
[00:22:05] They know
[00:22:05] So it's a
[00:22:06] Very friendly
[00:22:06] Audience
[00:22:07] And this is
[00:22:07] It
[00:22:07] And letter
[00:22:09] Writing
[00:22:09] Yes
[00:22:10] But to just
[00:22:11] Let it come
[00:22:12] From your
[00:22:12] Experience
[00:22:13] In your
[00:22:13] Heart
[00:22:14] That kind
[00:22:15] Of gets
[00:22:15] Writers
[00:22:16] Going
[00:22:16] Like okay
[00:22:17] I can do
[00:22:17] This
[00:22:18] I know
[00:22:18] How to
[00:22:18] Describe
[00:22:19] Things
[00:22:20] Or connect
[00:22:20] To the
[00:22:21] People
[00:22:21] That are
[00:22:21] Going
[00:22:21] To read
[00:22:22] It
[00:22:22] This is
[00:22:22] What they
[00:22:23] Want
[00:22:23] To hear
[00:22:24] And that
[00:22:24] Really was
[00:22:25] The impetus
[00:22:25] For you
[00:22:27] Know all
[00:22:27] Her
[00:22:27] I love
[00:22:28] It
[00:22:28] Writings
[00:22:28] Until the
[00:22:29] End
[00:22:29] Was really
[00:22:30] About picturing
[00:22:31] Henrietta
[00:22:32] At home
[00:22:33] In
[00:22:34] Winton
[00:22:35] And then
[00:22:35] Later
[00:22:36] Scotland
[00:22:36] Reading
[00:22:37] All of
[00:22:38] These
[00:22:38] You know
[00:22:39] Descriptions
[00:22:40] And these
[00:22:41] Letters
[00:22:41] So she
[00:22:42] Was 25
[00:22:43] Years old
[00:22:43] When this
[00:22:45] Got published
[00:22:45] And it
[00:22:46] Met with
[00:22:46] A fair
[00:22:47] Amount
[00:22:47] Of success
[00:22:48] in fact
[00:22:48] It really
[00:22:49] Surprised
[00:22:50] Her
[00:22:50] It
[00:22:50] Didn't
[00:22:51] Surprise
[00:22:52] John
[00:22:52] Murray
[00:22:52] He
[00:22:52] Was sure
[00:22:53] of it
[00:22:53] But
[00:22:54] People
[00:22:54] Were curious
[00:22:54] Who
[00:22:55] Would
[00:22:55] Never
[00:22:55] Travel
[00:22:56] To
[00:22:56] America
[00:22:56] What
[00:22:57] Is it
[00:22:57] Like
[00:22:58] What
[00:22:58] Are
[00:22:58] The
[00:22:58] Americas
[00:22:59] Like
[00:22:59] What's
[00:23:00] Canada
[00:23:00] Like
[00:23:00] What's
[00:23:01] You know
[00:23:01] Cincinnati
[00:23:02] And she
[00:23:03] Wrote about
[00:23:03] Cincinnati
[00:23:04] She
[00:23:04] Described
[00:23:05] Chicago
[00:23:05] She
[00:23:06] Described
[00:23:06] New York
[00:23:07] New York
[00:23:09] That's how
[00:23:09] I did that
[00:23:10] And you know
[00:23:10] Cincinnati
[00:23:10] At that time
[00:23:11] Harriet Beecher Stowe
[00:23:12] Had lived there
[00:23:13] And Harriet
[00:23:14] Described it
[00:23:15] As a
[00:23:15] Beehive
[00:23:16] Of
[00:23:16] Christianity
[00:23:17] Oh
[00:23:17] I like
[00:23:17] That
[00:23:18] And so
[00:23:18] Here's
[00:23:19] You know
[00:23:19] Isabella
[00:23:20] Going into
[00:23:21] These
[00:23:24] Their
[00:23:24] Personalities
[00:23:25] So that
[00:23:25] Her
[00:23:26] Family
[00:23:26] Can
[00:23:26] Feel like
[00:23:27] They've
[00:23:27] Been there
[00:23:28] Right
[00:23:28] And you
[00:23:28] Think about
[00:23:29] Chicago
[00:23:29] At that
[00:23:30] Time
[00:23:30] So
[00:23:31] Chicago
[00:23:32] At that
[00:23:32] Time
[00:23:32] Would have
[00:23:33] Been very
[00:23:53] Polluted
[00:23:54] And
[00:23:55] And
[00:23:57] Is
[00:24:01] Isabella
[00:24:01] Was
[00:24:01] Almost
[00:24:02] 29
[00:24:03] Now
[00:24:04] In
[00:24:04] Scotland
[00:24:05] She
[00:24:06] Made
[00:24:06] The
[00:24:06] Acquaintance
[00:24:07] And it
[00:24:07] Was
[00:24:07] Because
[00:24:08] For
[00:24:08] Her
[00:24:08] Book
[00:24:08] An
[00:24:08] English
[00:24:09] Woman
[00:24:09] Goes
[00:24:09] To
[00:24:10] An
[00:24:10] English
[00:24:11] Woman
[00:24:11] In
[00:24:11] America
[00:24:12] Because
[00:24:13] Of
[00:24:13] That
[00:24:13] Success
[00:24:13] She
[00:24:14] Was
[00:24:14] Able
[00:24:14] To
[00:24:14] Meet
[00:24:14] With
[00:24:14] A
[00:24:15] Lot
[00:24:15] Of
[00:24:15] Laureates
[00:24:15] And
[00:24:16] Poets
[00:24:16] And
[00:24:17] Kind
[00:24:17] Of
[00:24:17] Well
[00:24:17] Known
[00:24:17] People
[00:24:18] And
[00:24:18] She
[00:24:24] And
[00:24:25] This
[00:24:29] Is
[00:24:29] How
[00:24:29] She
[00:24:30] Met
[00:24:30] A
[00:24:30] Woman
[00:24:30] Named
[00:24:30] Anna
[00:24:31] Stoddart
[00:24:31] Who
[00:24:32] Became
[00:24:32] One
[00:24:32] Of
[00:24:33] Her
[00:24:33] Bestest
[00:24:34] Friends
[00:24:34] In
[00:24:35] The
[00:24:35] Whole
[00:24:35] Wide
[00:24:35] World
[00:24:35] And
[00:24:36] Anna
[00:24:37] Would
[00:24:38] Later
[00:24:38] Write
[00:24:38] The
[00:24:39] Biography
[00:24:39] Which
[00:24:40] Is
[00:24:40] Kind
[00:24:40] Of
[00:24:40] The
[00:24:41] Biography
[00:24:42] Of
[00:24:43] Isabella
[00:24:44] After
[00:24:44] Which
[00:24:45] All
[00:24:45] The
[00:24:45] Biographies
[00:24:46] Are
[00:24:47] Written
[00:24:47] So
[00:24:48] That's
[00:24:48] All
[00:24:48] I
[00:24:48] Have
[00:24:49] Time
[00:24:49] For
[00:24:49] I
[00:24:49] Wait
[00:24:49] To
[00:24:49] Hear
[00:24:50] More
[00:24:50] I
[00:24:50] That's
[00:24:51] All
[00:24:51] I
[00:24:51] Have
[00:24:51] Time
[00:24:51] For
[00:24:51] In
[00:24:52] This
[00:24:52] First
[00:25:25] We
[00:25:29] We
[00:25:32] Hope
[00:25:38] You
[00:25:39] Have
[00:25:40] A
[00:25:41] Woman
[00:25:42] Worth
[00:25:42] Knowing
[00:25:42] Is
[00:25:45] A
[00:25:46] Woman
[00:25:46] Worth
[00:25:46] Knowing
[00:25:46] With
[00:25:47] Cheryl
[00:25:47] Broderson
[00:25:48] And
[00:25:48] Robin
[00:25:48] Jones
[00:25:49] Gunn
[00:25:50] Women
[00:25:50] Worth
[00:25:51] Knowing
[00:25:51] Is
[00:25:51] A
[00:25:51] Production
[00:25:51] Of
[00:25:52] Calvary
[00:25:52] Chapel
[00:25:52] Costa
[00:25:53] Mesa
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