- When She Leads

- When She Leads

When She Leads is a podcast for women in ministry hosted by Brenda Leavenworth. With over 30 years of ministry experience and a degree in biblical studies, Brenda is uniquely qualified to train and guide the next generation of women leaders in the church. Co-hosts include Rosemary Cady, Kelly Bell, and Krista Fox, each bringing their collective experiences, research, victories, and failures to consider and discuss a range of topics from a biblical and practical perspective. Have a topic for the show? Share it with us at whensheleadspodcast@gmail.com!

Jesus Through the Eyes of Women - Rebecca McLaughlin - WSL West Coast Conference 2024
- When She LeadsNovember 05, 2025
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Jesus Through the Eyes of Women - Rebecca McLaughlin - WSL West Coast Conference 2024

In this episode, join renowned author and scholar Rebecca McLaughlin as she speaks at the WSL West Coast Conference 2024. She explores the pivotal role women played in Jesus’s ministry, revealing how their faith and courage illuminate deeper truths about the gospel. Rebecca is ...

Ageism In Ministry
- When She LeadsOctober 15, 2025
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Ageism In Ministry

In this episode, Brenda, Janie, and Janice explore the often-overlooked issue of ageism in the church and why older women continue to play a vital role in ministry and community life. This conversation highlights the biblical and practical importance of intergenerational relati...

Ministry Life: Exhausted and Overwhelmed
- When She LeadsOctober 02, 202500:42:28

Ministry Life: Exhausted and Overwhelmed

Serving in women’s ministry is a calling filled with joy, but it can also leave us exhausted and stretched thin. In this episode, Brenda, Christy, and Grace talk honestly about the weight of expectations, the creep of fatigue, and the struggle to balance service with rest. Toge...

An Interview with Cicely Corry: How Gen Z is Spiritual but not Religious
- When She LeadsSeptember 16, 202500:48:59

An Interview with Cicely Corry: How Gen Z is Spiritual but not Religious

Today, Brenda sits down with Cicely Corry to explore why Gen Z is showing a greater spiritual openness than previous generations, even as women are leaving the church at higher rates than men for the first time in decades. They delve into the cultural forces and personal experi...

An Interview with Robin Gunn
- When She LeadsSeptember 02, 2025x
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An Interview with Robin Gunn

Join Brenda Leavenworth as she interviews celebrated author Robin Gunn about her life, writing, and the inspiration behind her beloved books. Robin reflects on her most impactful books, shares stories from her writing journey, and discusses how she weaves biblical truth into na...

An Interview with Irene Bernheisel: Camp Alandale - Where Abused Children Find Hope & Healing In Jesus Christ
- When She LeadsAugust 17, 2025x
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An Interview with Irene Bernheisel: Camp Alandale - Where Abused Children Find Hope & Healing In Jesus Christ

Listen in as Kelly sits down with Irene Berheisal, director of Camp Alandale, for a candid conversation about her role, leadership, and experiences. Camp Alandale’s mission statement is “to introduce more and more abused children to the life changing and healing reality of Jesu...

The Pastor’s Wife and Staff Dynamics
- When She LeadsAugust 01, 2025x
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The Pastor’s Wife and Staff Dynamics

Join us as Brenda, Kelly, and Rosemary discuss some of the unique dynamics of being a pastor's wife and how that can affect relationships with other staff members of the church. They explore some topics such as authority, friendship boundaries, and navigating your role when you...

What Leaders Do When Tragedy Strikes the Church?
- When She LeadsJuly 15, 2025x
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What Leaders Do When Tragedy Strikes the Church?

In this podcast, Brenda and Krista addresses the difficult reality that women in ministry will inevitably face seasons of profound loss and crisis within their congregations, from sudden deaths to community tragedies. They offer biblical wisdom and guidance for leading through ...

Interview With Debbie Martis - CEO of Rebirth Homes - Local Home for Trafficked Women
- When She LeadsJuly 03, 202500:30:29

Interview With Debbie Martis - CEO of Rebirth Homes - Local Home for Trafficked Women

In this episode, Kelly interviews Debbie Martis, founder and CEO of Rebirth Homes, an anti-trafficking organization dedicated to supporting survivors of human trafficking. Since 2013, Rebirth Homes has provided safe housing and comprehensive care through a two-year program desi...

How Do I Overcome Feeling Inadequate?
- When She LeadsJune 19, 2025x
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How Do I Overcome Feeling Inadequate?

In this episode, Brenda and Krista explore the common struggle of feeling unqualified or insufficient in ministry work, examining how God uses weaknesses and perceived inadequacies as vessels for His strength and glory. They go over some practical strategies for silencing the i...

The Pastor’s Wife and Marriage in the Public Eye
- When She LeadsJune 03, 2025x
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The Pastor’s Wife and Marriage in the Public Eye

Join us as Brenda, Christy, and Rosemary discuss the unique blessings and demands of being in the role of the pastor's wife. They address how their marriages have become part of their public ministry and different ways they maintain balance between their personal relationsh...

Top 5 Church Laws Every Leader Should Know
- When She LeadsMay 15, 2025x
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Top 5 Church Laws Every Leader Should Know

Join us as Brenda and Shirley unpack five crucial church laws that can save your ministry from headaches and heartaches. Whether you're a seasoned leader or just starting out, this conversation will equip you with the practical knowledge you need to protect your congregation wh...

How Children can be Church Leaders Today
- When She LeadsMay 02, 2025x
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How Children can be Church Leaders Today

In this episode, Brenda is joined by Tami Peña, Children's Ministry Director at Reliance Church, to talk through helpful directives and procedures that can help foster inter-generational discipleship in our ministries. We pray that this conversation encourages you to contin...

Serving When Married to a Non-Believer
- When She LeadsApril 15, 2025x
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Serving When Married to a Non-Believer

In this episode, Brenda, Gloria, and Kristie offer biblical encouragement and prayerful wisdom for women faithfully serving in their church while married to an unbelieving spouse, showing how to honor both their ministry calling and marriage covenant with grace. We pray that th...

Nuts and Bolts of Women’s Bible Study
- When She LeadsApril 01, 2025x
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Nuts and Bolts of Women’s Bible Study

In this episode, Brenda, Rosemary and Kelly explore practical strategies for creating meaningful women's Bible study groups that foster both spiritual growth and authentic community connections. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and...

Should we Establish Boundaries in Ministry?
- When She LeadsMarch 15, 2025x
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Should we Establish Boundaries in Ministry?

In this episode, Brenda, Rosemary and Christy Duff talk through the complications, nuances, joys, and balance of establishing boundaries in ministry. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment ...

What Can Leaders Expect From Their Volunteers?
- When She LeadsMarch 01, 2025x
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What Can Leaders Expect From Their Volunteers?

In this episode, Brenda and Kelly sit down with Gia Lucid to talk about cultivating a healthy culture for church volunteers and what you can reasonably expect from those giving their time in service to ministry. We pray that this interview encourages you to continue to lead wit...

An Interview with Janice Orate - Transitional Ministry
- When She LeadsFebruary 17, 2025x
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An Interview with Janice Orate - Transitional Ministry

In this episode, Brenda sits down with Janice Orate to talk through her years serving her church community and preparing to transition ministry leadership as the Lord leads. Janice, alongside her husband Jim, have faithfully served their community and ministry at CC Rancho Cuca...

Internal Team Values
- When She LeadsFebruary 01, 2025x
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Internal Team Values

In this episode, Brenda is joined by Shirley Ruiz and Gloria Scholten to discuss the internal team values they've helped to facilitate at Reliance Church. Both Shirley and Gloria serve on the women's ministry board at Reliance Church. We pray that this conversation encourages...

Live Q&A
- When She LeadsJanuary 18, 2025x
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Live Q&A

In this episode, Brenda, Krista, Rosemary and Kelly continue answering questions they received from the West Coast Conference from October 2024. We pray that we all approach questions of faith, ministry, and life with curiosity and humility as we seek the face of Christ. We a...

Navigating Change in Ministry
- When She LeadsJanuary 01, 2025x
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Navigating Change in Ministry

In this episode, Brenda, Krista, and Kelly talk through their experiences of walking through minor and major changes in ministry. Learning to trust the guidance of the Lord builds patience, dependance and self-control in Him. We pray that this conversation encourages you to c...

West Coast Conference '24 - Jesus Through the Eyes of Women - Live Q&A
- When She LeadsDecember 16, 2024x
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West Coast Conference '24 - Jesus Through the Eyes of Women - Live Q&A

In this episode, When She Leads Hosts Brenda, Kelly, Rosemary, and Krista sat around the table at the recent West Coast Conference in Murrieta, CA to answer questions asked from the conference attendees. We pray that this interview encourages you to continue to lead with humi...

An Interview with Wendy Zahorjanski - Hard is Only Half of the Story - From Small Town Girl to Missionary in Serbia
- When She LeadsDecember 01, 2024x
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An Interview with Wendy Zahorjanski - Hard is Only Half of the Story - From Small Town Girl to Missionary in Serbia

In this episode, Brenda sits down with Wendy Zahorjanski to talk about her life story and the writing of her book, her calling to serve Jesus as a missionary, and the continued work that she and her husband, Danny are doing with their church community in the city of Kragujevac....

When is the Right Time to Step Out in Faith?
- When She LeadsNovember 15, 2024x
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When is the Right Time to Step Out in Faith?

In this episode, Brenda, Krista, and Kelly talk through their experiences of stepping out in faith. Learning to trust the guidance of the Lord builds patience, dependance and self-control in Him. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility ...

How Should we Handle Spiritual Warfare?
- When She LeadsNovember 01, 2024x
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How Should we Handle Spiritual Warfare?

In this episode, Brenda, Rosemary, and Kelly talk through their various experiences of handling and combatting spiritual warfare. We pray that this conversation encourages you to continue to lead with humility and transparency by the filling and empowerment of the Spirit. -...