Season 1
Can Pastors Be Entrepreneurs? (featuring Jon Sanders)
In this conversation, Jon Sanders shares his journey from being a pastor to transitioning into a new season of ministry. He discusses the calling that led him into ministry and the challenges he faced along the way. Jon also explores the concept of bivocational ministry and the...
Don’t Burn Out, Burn Bright (featuring Jonathan Malm)
In this episode of the Life After Ministry podcast, we tackle a critical issue that often serves as a catalyst for pastoral transitions: burnout. While our mission at Pastoral Transitions is to support ministry leaders in their journey out of ministry, we’re equally passionate ...
When Elders Initiate Transition (featuring Gary Weaber)
In Episode 8, we sit down with Gary Weaber, who poured his heart into pastoral ministry for over three and a half decades. Imagine, after 36 dedicated years, facing a conversation with your elders about stepping down from your teaching role. Most pastors dread this talk, fearin...
The Difference Between Hurt & Injury (featuring Shane McDonald)
Just mentioning ”church hurt” will hit home for many of you. It’s baffling. The very place we’d expect to find solace and healing often turns out to be a source of deep wounds. If this resonates with you, you’re not alone, and this episode is a must-listen. Our guest, Shane McD...
Transition Can Be ’Brutiful’ (featuring Justin and Amanda McNeil)
We sat down with Justin and Amanda McNeil at the American Association of Christian Counselors conference, and their story is nothing short of compelling. What sets their story apart is its testament to the notion that transitions out of vocational ministry don’t have to be fill...
Pain Is A Teacher (featuring Gary & Lisa Black)
In Episode 5, ”Pain Is A Teacher,” we sit down with the inspiring couple, Gary & Lisa Black, to discuss the transformative power of enduring life’s toughest transitions. From losing a spouse and a child to navigating numerous shifts in ministry, Gary and Lisa have amassed a wea...
The Holy Mess Of Pastoral Transitions (featuring Josh Harris)
Episode 4 of the Life After Ministry Podcast features a replay of an insightful conversation Matt Davis had on Josh Harris’s podcast, ”Clear and Loud.” Entitled ”The Holy Mess of Pastoral Transitions,” the episode delves deep into the complexities that come with leaving a role ...
Your Mental Health After Ministry (featuring Noe Rivera)
In Episode 3 of the Life After Ministry Podcast, we talk to Noe Rivera, a key member of the founding team behind Pastoral Transitions. Growing up as a pastor’s kid, Noe intimately understands the emotional toll that ministry transitions can take on families. Titled ”Mental Heal...
How To Figure Out Your Career After Ministry (featuring Bill Tom)
In Episode 2 of the Life After Ministry Podcast, we sit down with Bill Tom, Founder, CEO, and Chief Ministry Officer of Pastoral Transitions. With a rich background in career coaching and executive search, Bill offers priceless advice on vocational discernment for those exiting...
Is there life AFTER ministry?
In the inaugural episode of the Life After Ministry Podcast, hosts Matt and Marilee Davis open up about their own journey post-ministry. With vulnerability, they discuss the challenges and opportunities they encountered as they transitioned into a new career, community, and eve...
Life After Ministry - An Introduction
Change is inevitable, especially in our careers. For those who have devoted their lives to the profound call of ministry, transitioning away can seem not just like a change of job, but a seismic shift in identity and purpose. But it’s essential to remember: transitions in minis...